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Bpsb's avatar

Totally feel you, in the same predicament.

It also sucks to have to stand out at a conference (not eating) for things you don't believe in anymore.

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Uriah’s Wife's avatar

Sounds similar to my experience with unkosher pizza in my early high school days. It wasn’t until my early college days that I fully understood intellectually the incompatibility of Halachic Orthodoxy with science and reason. It didn’t take long thereafter that I went about 98% OTD.

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Ash's avatar

How odd for the need to eat this sandwich with such emotion, when in an earlier post, this author assured us "he only went oot for intellectual reasons".

One wonders why one must intellectually eat treif in Lakewood. It boggles the mind.

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Simon Furst's avatar

Stop being a jerk. You know the answer to that question.

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Ash's avatar

Please elaborate.

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Simon Furst's avatar

That undermines my original point to be honest, but I'll do it anyways.

The original disassociation can come from intellectual considerations, but there's an emotional fallout to be dealt with. This includes a radical reassessment of core identity, values, and place in society. The actions described in this post are likely the result of such a process

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Ash's avatar

Yes, and my point was that to describe it as a sandwich "that shouldn't matter" is as unfair a framing as me saying this doesn't sound intellectual.

The sandwich matters to.frum people the same way it matters to the author.

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Simon Furst's avatar

Now you're just trolling. And I'm just assuming that because I think you have more intelligence than to ask the question seriously. I'm done with this thread

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Ash's avatar

I was always trolling.

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Happy's avatar

I assume neither the intellect nor the emotion are from the purported author, but from the AI. Why is the style so obvious? I was experimenting with ChatGPT to write a story I want to post on IM, and all my iterations sound the same, the same as this post (and many others I see on this site and other sites). It's so boring and derivative.

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khoker's avatar

Same.

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Ash's avatar

Which is why I don't use it

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test test's avatar

You know the key question.

Did you go OTD before or after you met the shiksah?

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Todd Shandelman's avatar

test test -

Is that a real question?

Or just a test?

Or just a test of a test?

Why are you so testy?

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test test's avatar

It's a rhetorical question meant to trigger thought. Can you cope with that?

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